【S.H.→☆新闻】《帕丁顿熊》主演莎莉·霍金斯与自己的长兄制片

The Paddington actress Sally Hawkins and her film producer brother, Finbar
The siblings on Sally's role as Mrs Brown and braving the red carpet
Nick Duerden Sunday November 15 2020, 12.01am GMT, The Sunday Times
Sally
I sort of fell in love with Finbar as soon as I was conscious of him. He was everything I ever wanted to be, and still is. He's just such an impressive human being and he happens to be able to do everything I can't — including speaking eloquently to people and making sense. He was always very verbose — language comes naturally to him, as does writing. The fact that he has just written his first book makes me proud of him. I love literature too, but for a long time I struggled to read. I was kind of dyslexic … and a bit of a tit. So I looked up to Finbar and, as a child, I followed him around everywhere. I'm sure I was probably an irritating ball of baby.
All my cultural references came from him. I was very much a girl and he was very much a boy. My bedroom was pink and covered with flowers; his was dark and black. The poster on his door came from the film Alien: "In space no one can hear you scream". It was fascinating to watch him become a moody teenager. I also found his friends fascinating, these other boys from his school. Very pretty, too, some of them.
I'd been a fan of cheesy pop, so it was Finbar who got me into the cool stuff: everything from the Ramones to Goldfrapp to DJ Shadow. And it was him who first sat me down to watch a Mike Leigh film, Secrets & Lies, and said: "You've got to watch this." He was right. When Mike Leigh later gave me my break in acting [in the 2002 film All or Nothing] he was very proud.

Finbar is an amazing artist. I remember his A-level art, an incredibly detailed work on animals that looked as if he were a prodigy of Leonardo da Vinci, or Caravaggio. To have an ability like that … I was just, like, wow! My art, in comparison, looks like it's been done by a drunk spider monkey. If he wants to master something, he'll master it.
When he left for university I must have been about 13. That devastated me. I found being a teenager difficult and struggled to know who I was. I think I probably still do. But when he came back I'd found my calling — drama — and was more who I wanted to be. He has always been supportive of my work and he knows that, while I love it, I've never been very comfortable being well known. He knows how unequal the industry is, how much I've had to fight to get equal pay with my male co-stars.
When I appeared in the Paddington movies my niece and nephew were still pretty young, and I was worried how they would react. It must do something strange to a young child, to have an auntie in the public eye. I hope they're OK with it. It's testament to Finbar and my sister-in-law, Abby, just how balanced and brilliant they are. They came with me to the premiere of Paddington 2. I always find those red-carpet scenarios the most terrifying thing in the world — I forget to breathe — so to have them there to protect me was wonderful.
Me and Finbar have always been able to make each other laugh. When we get together we just giggle. He can make me hysterical. I'm sure that must be insanely irritating for others to watch, and be outside of, but for us it's lovely. It's like being teenagers again.
Finbar
I have a strong memory of my dad picking me up early from school on the day Sally was born. At home my mum was on the sofa, cradling the baby, and next to them was this huge box covered in tinfoil — the go-to wrapping paper for us — and I was told that Sally had bought me a present, an Action Man tank. I remember thinking that this was a nice gesture from my parents, but that they really didn't have to do this; I was excited to have a sister. That said, it was nice to get the tank.
There's five years between me and Sally; my mother had had a couple of miscarriages, hence the age gap. I was always very protective. When friends came round I'd try to stop them from crowding around the cot so that they wouldn't breathe on her too much.
We grew up in Greenwich and Blackheath [in southeast London] and both of us went to private schools in Dulwich. My parents were teachers, but then they started writing and illustrating children's books full-time. They had a very strong work ethic.
There's a running gag in the family that Sally's first word was "Rada". She may not have taken to the academic side of school so much, but once she saw what she could do in terms of acting it became all-encompassing. She had a real determination about her. For example, Mum took her to the circus once, and when the ringmaster asked if anyone in the audience would like to come up, he'd barely finished his sentence and she was already there. Later she was in an Alan Ayckbourn farce the school put on.
We grew up watching films together and I now work in the film industry myself, as a creative director at Aardman, so to see Sally acting in the films of directors we both admired so much growing up — people like Mike Leigh, Woody Allen, Guillermo del Toro — has been amazing. Whenever we talk I always want her to tell me everything: what was it like on set, what her co-stars are like. Sally will be the first to say that a lot of shit goes on in her industry, and she has probably had a lot to put up with, but she's very strong and assertive. She has that same stubborn drive our father has.
I don't think we've ever been competitive, but we certainly rabble-rouse for one another, always encouraging the other. I've long wanted to write children's books, and it was Sally who paid for me to go on a writing course specialising in children's fiction. That's why I've dedicated my first novel, Witch, to her.
We don't see each other as often as we'd like because she's often away filming, but we talk all the time and she comes to visit us regularly. She's a terrific aunt to my two children, always arriving with gifts and lots of nonsense and free stuff she's picked up, like gift bags from the Oscars. My kids were thrilled when she landed the part of Mrs Brown in the Paddington films. That was hugely exciting for them, but then it was for me too. We may be older now, but I still feel terribly protective of her. If you want some time with Sally you'll have to come through me first.
Sally Hawkins's latest film, Eternal Beauty, is out now. Witch by Finbar Hawkins is also out now (Zephyr £12.99)
STRANGE HABITS
Finbar on Sally She absolutely loves to spend ages on presents and gifts, and will write these long, lovely messages in her spidery, funny handwriting
Sally on Finbar He likes blue jackets. It's a bit of a thing. He has many blue jackets, all very similar, and yet the perfect one is still out there, he thinks

《帕丁顿熊》主演莎莉·霍金斯与自己的长兄制片人芬巴
兄妹俩谈莎莉扮演的布朗夫人一角以及携手并进勇走红毯的经历
尼克·杜尔登 2020年11月15日星期日，格林尼治时间12:01，《星期日泰晤士报》
莎莉
我能认出芬巴的时候喜欢上他了。他曾是我想成为的样子，现在仍是。他是个令人印象深刻的人，碰巧能做所有我做不到的事——善于沟通，还言之有理。他总是口若悬河——语言跟写作对他来说，是与生俱来的天赋。我最引以为傲的是，不久前他刚写完自己的第一本书。我也喜欢文学，但我总读得很吃力。我有阅读障碍，还有点憨憨的。所以，儿时的我总仰望芬巴，并是他的忠实跟屁虫。我确定我大概率是个惹人生气的小屁孩。
我在文化艺术方面的品味都来自于我哥。我是个十足的女孩，而他是个十足的男孩。我的卧室是粉色的，铺满了鲜花；他的则又黑又暗。他房门上的海报来自电影《异形》的台词：“太空中没人能听到你的尖叫”。看着他变成一个喜怒无常的少年是很有趣的过程。我还发现他的朋友们——他读的男校里的其他男孩子很迷人。其中一些还很帅气。
我一直是流行音乐粉，是芬巴把我带入这酷酷的音乐圈的：从雷蒙斯乐队到冰金乐团，再到DJ Shadow。是他第一次让我坐下来好好看迈克·李的电影《秘密与谎言》的，他说：“你一定要看这部电影。”，我哥是对的。后来得知迈克·李给了我表演的机会（在2002年的电影《折翼天使》中）时，他非常自豪。
芬巴是位了不起的艺术家。我记得他的高考作品，是一幅细致入微的动物画，那让他好似莱昂纳多·达·芬奇或卡拉瓦乔式的天才。竟然拥有这样的能力……我只能：“哇！”。相比之下，我的作品看起来就像是喝醉了的蜘蛛猴画的。如果我哥想掌握某样东西，他就会很快对此精通。
他离开家上大学时，我大概13岁。那让我很崩溃。我发现步入青春期其实好难，我开始努力去了解我究竟是谁。我想，我现在可能还是这样。但当他回来的时候，我已找到了自己的使命——戏剧表演——并且更像是我想成为的那个人了。他一直都很支持我的工作，而且他知道，虽然我喜欢自己的工作，但我从来就不喜欢被人熟知。他知道演员这个行业有多么不平等，也知道我为了争取和男同事们同工同酬付出了多少努力。
我初演《帕丁顿熊》系列电影的时候，我的侄女和侄子还很小，我很担心他们会有什么反应。有个天天出现在公众视线里的姑姑，这对一个小孩子来说一定是件奇怪的事。我希望他们不会介意。我哥芬巴与嫂子艾比和我一起参加了《帕丁顿熊2》的首映式，而这是他们二人机敏又善于平衡的明证。我总觉得走红毯是这世上最可怕的事情——我忘记了呼吸——所以，有他们在那里保护我真是太棒了。
我和芬巴总能让对方开怀大笑。我们聚在一起时总是充满了欢乐。他能让我笑到歇斯底里。我敢肯定，外人看来肯定会抓狂，但对我们来说，这是很可爱的。就像重回了少年时代。

芬巴
我至今仍清楚记得莎莉出生的那天，我爸早早地从学校接我。回到家，看到我妈躺在沙发上，抱着一个小婴儿，旁边是一个用锡纸包着的大盒子——那是常用来给我们包礼物的包装纸——他们告诉我，是莎莉给我买了一份礼物，一辆机动人坦克。我记得当时我想，这是爸妈的一种善意表达，但他们真的没必要这么做；我很高兴有个妹妹。话虽如此，我还是很高兴收到坦克的。
我和莎莉相差5岁；由于妈妈曾经流产过几次，所以，我俩才有了年龄差。我总是很有保护欲。朋友们过来时，我会尽量不让他们挤在婴儿床周围，以免他们对着她呼太多气。
我俩在格林威治和布莱克希斯（伦敦东南部）长大，后来都在德威读的私立学校。我们的父母都是老师，不过，他们后来开始全职写童书并配插画。他们有很强的职业道德。
家里一直有个笑话，就是莎莉说的第一个词居然是“RADA”（英国皇家戏剧艺术学院，莎莉后来毕业的大学）。她在学校的学习方面可能不算好，但当她发现自己能在表演方面做什么时，一切都变得无所不包了。她很有决心。例如，妈妈有一次带她去看马戏，当主持人问观众中有没有人愿意上来时，他还没说完，她已经在台上了。后来她又演了学校组织出演的艾伦·艾克本的闹剧。
我们是一起看电影长大的，我现在也在影视行业工作，是阿德曼动漫公司的创意总监，所，以看到莎莉在我俩成长过程中一直欣赏的导演——比如，迈克·李、伍迪·艾伦，还有吉尔莫·德尔·托罗——的电影里扮演一个个角色，这种感觉很神奇。每次我们聊天，我总想让她告诉我一切：片场是什么样子的，和她合作的演员是什么样子的。莎莉总是第一个说自己的行业中发生了很多糟糕的事情，她可能已经忍受了很多，但她非常坚强和自信。她有股跟爸爸同样的倔劲儿。
我从没觉得我们在竞争，但我们肯定会彼此打气，总鼓励对方。我一直想写儿童读物，是莎莉资助我去读儿童文学创作研究生的。这就是我把处女作《女巫》献给她的原因。
因为她经常离家出去拍戏，所以，我们不能经常见面。但我们一直在聊天，她也会定期来看我们。她是我两个孩子的好姑姑，总是带着礼物和一大堆没用的免费东西来，比如来自奥斯卡奖的礼品袋。当她出演《帕丁顿熊》系列电影中的布朗夫人时，我的孩子们都很兴奋。这不仅对他们来说是非常激动人心的，对我来说也是如此。我们现在可能是都长大了，但我仍然超级想保护她。如果你想和莎莉处朋友，你得先过我这一关。
莎莉·霍金斯的最新电影《永恒美人》已经上映了。而芬巴·霍金斯写的《女巫》现在也上市了（Zephyr上售价12.99镑）。
奇怪的习惯
芬巴谈莎莉：她绝对喜欢花很长时间买礼物，而且会用她特有的蜘蛛般、有趣的笔迹写下一连串长长的、可爱的信息。
莎莉谈芬巴：他喜欢蓝色夹克。这是怪事一桩。他有许多蓝色夹克了，问题是，都非常相似。但更要命的是，他认为最完美的一件自己还没买回来。