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马丁7月11号的博客。 关于 龙的习惯。

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我截选了一部分我认为重要的内容。但是整片大该说了2点。第一点,剧组把Targ的sigil 弄错了。书中龙家的旗帜是2只脚。权游和龙家,把旗帜弄成了4只脚。第二点,未来的卷6,7还有火与血2,会大量解绍龙的习惯,与骑手的bonding。还有龙不喜欢自主的到处飞。无主的龙更喜欢呆在自己出生的地方。比如 valyria freehold 和 dragon stone。全文老马有意无意暗示了自己对剧组改编的不满。


IP属地:中国香港来自iPhone客户端1楼2024-07-12 08:52回复
    My dragons do not talk. They are relatively intelligent, but they are still beasts.
    They bond with men… some men… and the why and how of that, and how it came to be, will eventually be revealed in more detail in THE WINDS OF WINTER and A DREAM OF SPRING and some in BLOOD & FIRE. (Septon Barth got much of it right). Like wolves and bears and lions, dragons can be trained, but never entirely tamed. They will always be dangerous. Some are wilder and more wilful than others. They are individuals, they have personalities… and they often reflect the personalities of their riders, thanks to bond they share are. They do not care a whit about gold or gems, no more than a tiger would. Unless maybe their rider was obsessed with the shiny stuff, and even then…
    Dragons need food. They need water too, but they have no gills. They need to breathe . Some say that Smaug slept for sixty years below the Lonely Mountains before Bilbo and the dwarves woke him up. The dragons born of Valyria cannot do that. They are creatures of fire, and fire needs oxygen. A dragon could dip into the ocean to scoop up a fish, perhaps, but they’d fly right up again. If held underwater too long, they would drown, just like any other land animal.


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      My dragons are predators, carnivores who like their meat will done. They can and will hunt their own prey, but they are also territorial. They have lairs. As creatures of the sky, they like mountain tops, and volcanic mountains best of all. These are creatures of fire, and the cold dank caverns that other fantasists house their pets in are not for mine. Man-made dwellings, like the stables of Dragonstone, the towers tops of the Valryian Freehold, and the Dragonpit of King’s Landing, are acceptable — and often come with men bringing them food. If those are not available, young dragons will find their own lairs… and defend them fiercely.
      My dragons are creatures of the sky. They fly, and can cross mountains and plains, cover hundreds of miles… but they don’t, unless their riders take them there. They are not nomadic. During the heyday of Valyria there were forty dragon-riding families with hundreds of dragons amongst them… but (aside from our Targaryens) all of them stayed close to the Freehold and the Lands of the Long Summer. From time to time a dragonrider might visit Volantis or another Valyrian colony, even settle there for a few years, but never permanently. Think about it. If dragons were nomadic, they would have overrun half of Essos, and the Doom would only have killed a few of them. Similarly, the dragons of Westeros seldom wander far from Dragonstone. Elsewise, after three hundred years, we would have dragons all over the realm and every noble house would have a few. The three wild dragons mentioned in Fire & Blood have lairs on Dragonstone. The rest can be found in the Dragonpit of King’s Landing, or in deep caverns under the Dragonmont. Luke flies Arrax to Storm’s End and Jace to Winterfell, yes, but the dragons would not have flown there on their own, save under very special circumstances. You won’t find dragons hunting the riverlands or the Reach or the Vale, or roaming the northlands or the mountains of Dorne.
      Fant


      IP属地:中国香港来自iPhone客户端3楼2024-07-12 08:53
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        My dragons are predators, carnivores who like their meat will done. They can and will hunt their own prey, but they are also territorial. They have lairs. As creatures of the sky, they like mountain tops, and volcanic mountains best of all. These are creatures of fire, and the cold dank caverns that other fantasists house their pets in are not for mine. Man-made dwellings, like the stables of Dragonstone, the towers tops of the Valryian Freehold, and the Dragonpit of King’s Landing, are acceptable — and often come with men bringing them food. If those are not available, young dragons will find their own lairs… and defend them fiercely.


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          My dragons are creatures of the sky. They fly, and can cross mountains and plains, cover hundreds of miles… but they don’t, unless their riders take them there. They are not nomadic. During the heyday of Valyria there were forty dragon-riding families with hundreds of dragons amongst them… but (aside from our Targaryens) all of them stayed close to the Freehold and the Lands of the Long Summer. From time to time a dragonrider might visit Volantis or another Valyrian colony, even settle there for a few years, but never permanently. Think about it. If dragons were nomadic, they would have overrun half of Essos, and the Doom would only have killed a few of them. Similarly, the dragons of Westeros seldom wander far from Dragonstone. Elsewise, after three hundred years, we would have dragons all over the realm and every noble house would have a few. The three wild dragons mentioned in Fire & Blood have lairs on Dragonstone. The rest can be found in the Dragonpit of King’s Landing, or in deep caverns under the Dragonmont. Luke flies Arrax to Storm’s End and Jace to Winterfell, yes, but the dragons would not have flown there on their own, save under very special circumstances. You won’t find dragons hunting the riverlands or the Reach or the Vale, or roaming the northlands or the mountains of Dorne.


          IP属地:中国香港来自iPhone客户端5楼2024-07-12 08:53
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            Fantasy needs to be grounded. It is not simply a license to do anything you like. Smaug and Toothless may both be dragons, but they should never be confused. Ignore canon, and the world you’ve created comes apart like tissue paper.


            IP属地:中国香港来自iPhone客户端6楼2024-07-12 08:54
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              龙家拍成这样真的很可惜,本来是个更深入了解龙本身和骑手的羁绊的绝佳机会的


              IP属地:广东来自Android客户端7楼2024-07-12 09:50
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                先出了再说吧,那怕是几章


                IP属地:江西来自iPhone客户端8楼2024-07-12 10:46
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                  龙是单纯的魔法生物,还是生物但天生会魔法?它的火的是物理火,还是魔法火?看了好几遍书,越来越觉得龙还是该删掉,冰火的龙没有神性,仅仅只是一个用于维系政治的暴力工具


                  IP属地:江苏来自Android客户端9楼2024-07-12 11:19
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                    笑死我了,卷7都拉出来了


                    IP属地:上海来自iPhone客户端10楼2024-07-12 12:47
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                      第一季时我就看到了,马丁强调过他写的是两脚龙


                      IP属地:辽宁来自Android客户端11楼2024-07-12 13:04
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                        马丁老爷子有挺严谨的科学精神,六肢和四肢差距太大了,所以才会强调吧


                        IP属地:上海来自Android客户端12楼2024-07-12 13:19
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                          我想问一下当初第八季出的时候他有气到发长评吗如果没有岂不是说第八季结局虽然粉丝不满但真的有他的手笔


                          IP属地:山东来自Android客户端13楼2024-07-12 13:26
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                            下面这段博文暗适的很明显。 龙有2只脚。wyvern 也有2支脚。 很明显。 龙是wyvern 被魔法造出来的
                            Dragons DO exist in the world of Westeros, however (wyverns too, down in Sothoryos), so my own heralds did not have that excuse. Ergo, in my books, the Targaryen sigil has two legs, as it should. Why would any Westerosi ever put four legs on a dragon, when they could look at the real thing and could their limbs? My wyverns have two legs as well; they differ from the dragons of my world chiefly in size, coloration, and the inability to breath fire. (It should be stressed that while the Targaryen sigil has the proper number of legs (two), it is not exactly anatomically correct. The wings are way too small compared to the body, and of course no dragon has three heads. That bit is purely symbolic, meant to reflect Aegon the Conqueror and his two sisters).


                            IP属地:中国香港来自iPhone客户端14楼2024-07-12 13:33
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                              龙是魔法生物。 有一个theory是说龙是被用血魔法从 wyvern (有wing,能飞,不能喷火) 和wyrm (无wing,不能飞,能喷火)这2种类龙生物上 造出的物种。 Septon Barth wrote about wyverns in Dragons, Wyrms,


                              IP属地:中国香港来自iPhone客户端15楼2024-07-12 13:37
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